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#16 OFFLINE   AA1PR

 
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Posted 28 January 2015 - 12:22 PM

12.5K 98412 is 51 lbs. http://www.quadratec...122_1211_07.htm

 

10K 98510 at 67 lbs. http://www.quadratec...122_1310_07.htm

 

I bet the weight difference is in the X2O additions Smitty brags about on their website...

 

The X20 Series features an all new integrated wireless remote control for ease of use and maximum versatility. The top-of-the-line X20 COMP also features Smittybilt's exclusive Dynamic Braking System which reduces drum temperatures by 66% and makes it perfectly suited to operate all types of synthetic ropes.

just got off the phone with their tech

 

the X2O has an additional cover over the casing that gives it the look & that adds the extra weight (& can be removed if desired)

 

the XRC is 20.8" long & the X2O is 22.3" long


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Posted 28 January 2015 - 12:58 PM

I wouldn't skimp. Why buy something for self recovery, that very well may not be able to recover your vehicle? Just my 2 cents B)

Are you implying his choices are not up the task of recovery? Or what does this 2 cents mean?


I wouldn't skimp. Why buy something for self recovery, that very well may not be able to recover your vehicle? Just my 2 cents B)

Are you implying his choices are not up the task of recovery? Or what does this 2 cents mean?

I think he means go big or go home, its better to have excess power than under powered B) but luckily these are both waterproof & the upgraded COMP models

it does make me wonder why the smaller unit is so much heavier, more quality steel? 88 vs 99lbs & its smaller

I might see if I can find a # for smittybilt & pick their brains this afternoon

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What Mike sad. Go big or go home. And 2 cents meaning my opinion is worth no more than 0.02 USD.
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Posted 28 January 2015 - 01:01 PM

Thats why I went 12.5 on mine.  Bigger motor. 


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are the ones who have gone over...


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Posted 28 January 2015 - 01:07 PM

& these both have the 6.6Hp motors, however I forgot to mention the X2O has a 5 years electrical warranty, which is sweet


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Posted 28 January 2015 - 01:09 PM

That is the motor mine has. Pretty common now. 5 and 5.5 used to be more so. 


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Posted 28 January 2015 - 03:02 PM

I'm buying a 12K# Badlands winch today for work.  It will be set up immediately on a trailer to drag to WV to perform a vehicle recovery.  I have another dead 6.7 powerjoke work truck that needs to be brought home. It may not matter with you changing your plan, but I'll let you know how it does soon enough.    


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Posted 28 January 2015 - 03:19 PM

I'm buying a 12K# Badlands winch today for work.  It will be set up immediately on a trailer to drag to WV to perform a vehicle recovery.  I have another dead 6.7 powerjoke work truck that needs to be brought home. It may not matter with you changing your plan, but I'll let you know how it does soon enough.    

 

be careful with that, you can only winch for 45 seconds & the rest period is 15 minutes

 

the same model I'm getting with steel line is only $399 & their tech says they have no duty cycle, they run as long as needed without burning up

 

& check this out


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 01:29 PM

OK I'm thinking do I really need the synthetic line or should I get steel & save $150

 

I dont anticipate rock crawling, but you never know what kind of terrain you'll be stuck in

 

then again if synthetic breaks it falls to the ground unlike steel

 

ideas, suggestions, help ?


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 01:32 PM

I did it almost fully due to the weight savings on the IFS myself.  As far out as the winch sits, the weight is effectively more than if right over the suspension.  Plus handling the winch is far easier with 30 lbs shaved off. 


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 02:08 PM

I did it almost fully due to the weight savings on the IFS myself.  As far out as the winch sits, the weight is effectively more than if right over the suspension.  Plus handling the winch is far easier with 30 lbs shaved off. 

I was planning on upgrading the TB's (another future mod)  but another good point if its the daughter or whomever


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Posted 01 February 2015 - 08:05 AM

still trying to decide what winch to get, torn between steel or synthetic cable

 

if I ever use it it'll be during one the VT events

 

everyone on another forum preferred steel, but I dont wheel like them

 

so do I be frugal & save $$$ or get the best option(s)

 

I'm torn, since I've never owned one before


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Posted 01 February 2015 - 10:00 AM

I bought mine w steel n subsequently bought the hawse and syn line. On expedition type stuff I take the steel with me jic. Best of both worlds I think.
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Posted 01 February 2015 - 10:06 AM

OK so maybe I ought to buy steel & save $150 then

 

that $$$ could be put towards other mod(s) or my trip come June

 

Thanks for the help I highly value your opinion since its based on actual experience


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Posted 01 February 2015 - 01:21 PM

 

so do I be frugal & save $$$ or get the best option(s)

 

 

simple question to ask yourself. if it comes to a point where you are out there by yourself and need to use it, do you want to question your gears ability to do its job?


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Posted 01 February 2015 - 01:58 PM

 

 

so do I be frugal & save $$$ or get the best option(s)

 

 

simple question to ask yourself. if it comes to a point where you are out there by yourself and need to use it, do you want to question your gears ability to do its job?

 

OH I agree & I think either winch I have chosen is more than capable, its just do I save $$ & get steel or splurge & get synthetic since its $150 difference for either winch


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