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#1 OFFLINE   firesq14

 
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:56 AM

ok thanks for the thoughts on the shocks....blistien is what i am going with. new poll. looking at a winch, why, because, why not. so as i have said i have a 99 burb, going to the junk yard to get a new GVW slip. what are your thoughts on brands? i have seen many many out there and i just do not want to buy something on name but rather reliablitiy.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:22 PM

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:00 PM

Loaded question for sure.

 

Personally I have a Tuff Stuff 12.5K winch with Viking Synthetic 7/16 line.  It work great and I did not break the bank for it.  It seems that it is actually a Superwinch in disguise

 

I personally find Warn to overrated and see as many of them break as any other winch when out on the trail.  For the price, I think you can do much better.

 

If you look at the budget winches, you will find many of them are actually identical and parts interchangable.  They come in different brands with different stickers and packaging for a variety of pricing, but the nuts and bolts are the same.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:46 PM

Ive been convinced by most of the guys here to get a Superwinch 


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:51 PM

This is another ford vs chevy question.

 

I myself have been Warn since day one. yes pricey but after coming from rockcrawling where Ive seen almost every flavor of winch out there. I keep seeing the warns and superwinches come on top. Smittybilt has a good warranty, I hear a lot fo guys being able to get the winches warrantied but they keep braking on the trail. What good is a warranty on the trail? A lot of winch failures that happen with fullsize rigs is mainly they use an underpowered winch. Most only get an 8,000lb when you should realistically be looking at a 12 or 15,000lb winch which turns out to be real money. The 8274 Warn upright is popular because of its massive length of line but is only an 8,000lb winch. Odds are if you are in the mud then an 8k lb winch would work but if you are working angles on rocks or stuck up to the frame in clay a heavier winch might be a better choice.

 

There is the Warn VR "entry level" series which were meant to be more competitive with some of the other brands. There are a lot of new brands on the block. A lot are re-badged, some are ok foreign copies. but you generally get what you pay for. If the winch is there as a "maybe I might use it during sometime in the next 10 years" type of thing then a budget winch would probably work because it will be that ONE time you need to get unstuck. If you are going to be using it every weekend then you seriously want to consider a premium winch.

Cable vs, synth rope. there is no better or worse between them. Choose based purely on need.

Cable is heavy but can take a beating on abrasion Synth cant
Synth is easily repairable Cable takes a bit of work
Synth is light but cant handle sharp edges.

I still run steel mainly because most areas I am in rocky terrain.

 

There was a big winch shootout article in one of the magazines I will find the online article and post it up.


 


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:07 PM

That test cracks me up. Got my buddy to buy an Engo and it was DOA.

Wonder how much Warn paid for #1 cause it clearly was not.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:56 PM

It wasn't that one. It was a more real world test and super winch and warn came out on top. It's from a couple years ago. That one wasn't the best as it was pretty much just bench top testing.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:04 PM

http://www.fourwheel...winch-shootout/
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:07 PM

$1000 plus winch test.

http://www.expeditio...winch-test.html
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

Old enough the technology has changed but any info is good info to make a decision

http://www.moabjeepe...m?articleID=353
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:20 PM

The tuff stuff ones have been around for a few years now and have gained a quick following. They are made by same company that does mile markers. 3 year warranty and it sounds like the customer service isn't bad through truck and winch. I myself may keep an Eye on one for a rear winch.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:25 PM

Their customer service is amazing and warranty is damn good. I am buying another for my dads trailer once he pulls the trigger on ordering.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:26 PM

Old enough the technology has changed but any info is good info to make a decision
http://www.moabjeepe...m?articleID=353


Good article. Wouldnt call it old technology, it's only from 2007
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:33 PM

Good choice on articles. Ill have to see if I can find the article I read. I am starting to think it was British or australian.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 10:39 PM

http://www.avenger4x...inchComparo.pdf
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